thank you, i have ordered new springs and seals that should be here by tomorrow, also i already got a hold of a used set of vtc gears that dont make those noises, im more than sure than before now thats what the problem is. When i place my fingers behind the timing cover i can feel the tapping from the vtc gears. im gonna pull the covers out and replace the springs first. If that doesnt fix it ill do the vtc.