Ok I got a good (new) temp sensor in the car for the ecu side of things no change. Im losing pressure in about 18sec when put at 8psi to test for leaks. So i guess im looking for a very slow leak, or is that about normal? I rechecked the ohm resistance make sure I did not error in the first test. Im going to recheck the mechanical timing. I talked to z1 they also recommended using a 1 mega ohm resistor on the ecu side of the harness for the knock sensor see if I get any resuslts from that. thanks for the ideas. ill keep digging.