by any means. Tired old platform. The platform has been around for 18 years guys. They milked it enough. I understand the modular concept in designing which is what most automakers follow these days, sharing between platforms and reduce production costs. Give us something to be proud about a Camry has 300 hp .. A lot of other cars are equal or above this power platform, but the looks left a lot to be desired. Take a very good look at it it does not flow.