Subject	Balance tube enlarges pulsation effect and (can) improve VE
Posted by	lymon on February 02, 2017 at 1:24 PM
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In Reply To	Yes, all air handling systems will be integrated, as well as posted by Ash's Z on February 02, 2017 at 11:36 AM
Message	You can read all about it in the VR38DETT technical papers where Nissan experimented with different size diameter balance tubes to improve engine torque and spoolup. Granted it's a different engine, but very similar to a VG30DETT On the VR38 a plenum with balance tube had over 500 rpm earlier turbo spoolup when compared to a plenum without balance tube.
Follow Ups	Intake Manifold pics. - Ash's Z 20:52:05 02/01/17 who welded that? a child with no arms? - Jiro 21:05:59 02/01/17 Those are just tack welds. Endtanks will be coming back off - Ash's Z 21:54:03 02/01/17 That's what I was thinking. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 03:07:18 02/03/17 Hmmm. Have you thought about integrating air to water - ConVerTT 21:32:13 02/01/17 Yes. I have concerns with doing that though. >> - Ash's Z 21:56:26 02/01/17 Wouldn't that restriction net out due to the lack of - Summeronthechain (MN) 07:59:01 02/02/17 Plenums would have to be much larger. - BlackholeZ 10:50:11 02/02/17 Where does the balance tube go? (n/m) - MixManMash 21:36:10 02/01/17 It will run along the backside. (n/m) - Ash's Z 21:54:40 02/01/17 Is it me or... - RobZ32 22:39:37 02/01/17 They are all identical. I actually cut out #1 and #5 and - Ash's Z 23:23:43 02/01/17 I meant, #1 and #6. (n/m) - Ash's Z 01:03:12 02/02/17 Re: Intake Manifold pics. - NNayak 01:34:32 02/02/17 Yes, fits no problem. - Ash's Z 11:18:25 02/02/17 Very cool - ZaXxon 12:14:53 02/02/17 Re: Yes, fits no problem. - NNayak 14:34:01 02/02/17 Very interesting. What about the IACV and Air Regulator? - Polish 02:27:42 02/02/17 Yes, all air handling systems will be integrated, as well as - Ash's Z 11:36:57 02/02/17 Balance tube enlarges pulsation effect and (can) improve VE - lymon 13:24:47 02/02/17 Yes, I have read about that. :) (n/m) - Ash's Z 15:24:48 02/02/17 Care to link those papers? (n/m) - BlackholeZ 02:45:49 02/03/17 Re: Care to link those papers? - lymon 06:47:44 02/03/17 Re: Care to link those papers? - lymon 07:15:47 02/03/17 Re: Re: Care to link those papers? - Dallas DamonZ 08:37:22 02/03/17 The perceived difference is in the slash cut cross section - induetime 13:29:03 02/03/17 This ^ (n/m) - Ash's Z 18:12:17 02/03/17 here's our comparison: - vorpalZ 14:22:34 02/03/17 Cool - FrozTTy 08:11:41 02/02/17 Because the goal is even flow between runners - BlackholeZ 10:35:20 02/02/17 Winner! (n/m) - Ash's Z 11:18:55 02/02/17 :-) Been spending a bunch of time with plenum design lately - BlackholeZ 11:40:26 02/02/17 Re: :-) Been spending a bunch of time with plenum design lately - Ash's Z 11:51:01 02/02/17 link don't work (n/m) - BlackholeZ 01:13:15 02/04/17 Looks just like an R35 intake mani..... (n/m) - The Hawk 09:15:13 02/02/17 That's what I was thinking too. (n/m) - MixManMash 13:49:18 02/02/17 Interestingly enough, the design wasn't intended to be a - Ash's Z 15:23:43 02/02/17 very cool..... - Madhatter10-6 10:20:26 02/02/17 This design with a little shorter runners and larger plenum - Ash's Z 15:28:26 02/02/17 the only benefit gained is if you are modifying one or - The Devils Z 18:12:39 02/02/17 Not quite - BlackholeZ 19:48:21 02/02/17 you described #4-consistent air flow across each chamber (n/m) - The Devils Z 21:13:36 02/02/17 I did - BlackholeZ 23:14:41 02/02/17 Dee, your list of criteria is missing a couple of other - Ash's Z 18:11:09 02/03/17 Curious as to how this would benefit folks with smaller - Mr.Stacy 19:29:46 02/02/17 This design is more oriented for any setup looking to - Ash's Z 22:52:49 02/02/17 How do you access the plugs? Coil packs? (n/m) - EricTTZ 18:20:11 02/02/17 I'd expect to be using VAG coils. (n/m) - BlackholeZ 23:17:15 02/02/17 Oh great. The coils that fail like crazy. Super. (n/m) - MixManMash 00:13:20 02/03/17 They don't last 25 years like the Z32 coils, - BlackholeZ 02:21:54 02/03/17 The VW coils on my wife's Passat are 16 years old and have - xpwarrior 16:22:57 02/03/17 I've actually been thinking of switching to the VAG coils - BlackholeZ 19:29:19 02/03/17 Very interesting. I am interested to see it completed and - Boosted1 05:40:23 02/03/17 "only one still actively developing..." that's funny:) (n/m) - LitlElvis 11:33:25 02/03/17 Agreed, just because it's not posted about before its done - induetime 13:25:43 02/03/17 LOL, you were the first person I thought of when I read that (n/m) - Ash's Z 14:48:43 02/03/17 Haha, right? (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 22:32:22 02/04/17 No disrespect intended. I recently purchased your trans - Boosted1 12:11:43 02/05/17 I know you didn't mean any disrespect. I always got new - LitlElvis 21:23:01 02/05/17 c'mon, you know that's not how it works... - vorpalZ 17:05:30 02/06/17 RU FNG NUTS??!! Sell that sh**!! Group buy!! (n/m) - LJZTT 18:17:21 02/06/17 Coil pack provisions >>>> - Ash's Z 18:26:42 02/03/17 Re: Coil pack provisions >>>> - team7 18:51:08 02/03/17 I have a set of BDE rails as well as WinFactory rails on the - Ash's Z 19:19:57 02/03/17 So what are your opinions on alternate coils? - BlackholeZ 21:16:54 02/03/17
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