Can you please post a link to those? Those aound like they would work with the JUN JD sprigs and the tomei retainers we have installed already. Curious as to why you cannot get bde gears for the vtc to work? If you can shead some light on vtc situation. I was under impression that cams had oil holes drilled out in them and oil with come out front bolt regardless so the gears are what will decide the vtc which is point of BDE gears. The back of cam should have the ball and such in them.