Or DTC-70 a try on your next set. You will likely cook even the yellowstuff as your skills improve and you carry more speed and brake deeper(of course this is largely dependent on which track you're on as some are harder on brakes than others). They are truly race pads and make the HP+ and yellow stuff feel like junk. I also found that brake ducting with a proper backing plate funneling the air directly to the center of the rotor made my pads last MUCH longer(I get approx 4-5 weekends on a set of fronts at Road Atlanta, where I was getting 2-3 without the ducting).