Subject	I believe one you start moving away from cookie cutter
Posted by	ztunerz on November 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM
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In Reply To	You're calculating or estimating airflow with both setups posted by OverZealous (CT) on November 15, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Message	Z32 upgrades a standalone offers you more adjustability, accurate inputs and outputs, tunable knock and boost control and more resolution. I think once you start making big changes to the ve of the engine you need to go standalone. Adaptronics seems interesting although I have not used one. To me the haltech solution is so easy and modular it makes it is me to get going and it's sorted out by the manufacturer so you can concentrate on tuning rather than wiring and electronics. I am not a fan of the DIY stand alone solutions you build yourself because the software is cryptic and it requires too much setup time which most customers are unwilling to pay for or recognize the value of. Harry Formerly yellowzxtt
Follow Ups	Adaptronics PNP Z32 Standalone ECU - whamo 09:16:45 11/14/14 Very Interesting. - CMH (OH) 09:30:57 11/14/14 Looks pretty cool - interested in seeing the results! (n/m) - spicyZ 09:31:48 11/14/14 Very cool. Wonder how it compares with Haltech or others? - ZXoltan 09:32:17 11/14/14 Thanks for the sweet deal on all the parts Brandon - whamo 10:15:25 11/14/14 Re: Adaptronics PNP Z32 Standalone ECU - Bigwill837 09:56:41 11/14/14 Wont be tuning on E85 yet, but its in the works. (n/m) - whamo 12:00:53 11/14/14 I think map is preferable to blow thru anyway (n/m) - ztunerz 13:01:45 11/14/14 Harry, have you used this ECU? Want to know what you think - ZXoltan 16:23:40 11/14/14 i would not recommend this model of Adaptronic and with the - ztunerz 21:36:18 11/14/14 what are your thoughts on the new haltech elite? - aliaZ 14:13:51 11/15/14 I see several improvements and if you compare features - ztunerz 14:38:01 11/15/14 Re: I think map is preferable to blow thru anyway - Bigwill837 17:34:17 11/14/14 2nd Why? (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 19:17:48 11/14/14 They each have benefits and challenges - BlackholeZ 19:36:41 11/14/14 less plumbing. fewer sensors to go bad. >>> - ztunerz 21:31:27 11/14/14 Can't use the GM 3-bar MAP sensor for half the price? - dogpile 08:39:05 11/15/14 gm 3 bar for 50 bux ? sure you can use it if you want (n/m) - ztunerz 13:16:46 11/15/14 Believe it or not, they are trouble free. - dogpile 17:27:13 11/15/14 Ohh I am sure they are, just wanted to quote haltech pricing (n/m) - ztunerz 08:50:02 11/16/14 Gotcha. Read your wording as "it's GM, so their usual crap." (n/m) - dogpile 09:25:55 11/16/14 Re: less plumbing. fewer sensors to go bad. >>> - Bigwill837 20:52:04 11/15/14 You're calculating or estimating airflow with both setups - OverZealous (CT) 22:07:40 11/15/14 I believe one you start moving away from cookie cutter - ztunerz 10:13:11 11/16/14 True, they're both performing calculations... - Bigwill837 19:24:16 11/16/14 dont forget another 450 for additional I/o box if you want - toykoz32 11:00:24 11/16/14 True, there is a box a and b. IMO it's good they seperate - ztunerz 18:43:43 11/16/14 That should have been " and I needed " - toykoz32 16:24:01 11/17/14 Looks good...waiting to see what kind of results you get - RobZ32 09:57:35 11/14/14 Awesome, I have there unit as well (E1280S) - toykoz32 11:03:07 11/14/14 While being a nice product it IS starting to grow gray - kickerzx 17:21:30 11/14/14 But for the price you got it for whamo, its a steal ;) (n/m) - kickerzx 17:25:43 11/14/14 This is true... - whamo 17:42:42 11/14/14 Keep in mind that this product isnt represented as - whamo 19:34:10 11/14/14 What else does it eliminate other than the Selin and MAFs? (n/m) - CMH (OH) 12:31:32 11/15/14 Re: What else does it eliminate other than the Selin and MAFs? - whamo 13:02:15 11/15/14 Adapronics standalones are pretty nice. Basically there a - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 09:43:05 11/16/14 I would agree wasted spark is a waste of time - Carlos Ramirez 08:39:23 11/17/14 Can you elaborate why? - bartz32tt 15:27:18 11/17/14 I can understand why people recoil at the thought of - whamo 15:44:44 11/17/14 heya Steve... cant wait to go for a ride! (n/m) - rave 14:27:35 11/16/14 We shall Lance, then we have to get your car on the road (n/m) - whamo 16:09:38 11/16/14
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