obnoxious. There isn't anything car audio related that I can't build. If you know any of the Tampa Z guys that know me, they can certainly attest to that. That wasn't my question. I was looking for inspiration and ideas by seeing what others had done with their convertibles. As far as Chris's boxes go, I have bought from him in the past and love to support the creative contributors on this site, plus it saves me a lot of time which I don't have a ton of these days.