Subject	The newer PID style standalones are where it's at.
Posted by	TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) on July 17, 2014 at 4:14 AM
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In Reply To	from my understanding: posted by LivinTheDream on July 16, 2014 at 11:56 PM
Message	Just about all major ecu manufactures offer the now. Proefi, AEM, Haltech, Adaptronics just to name if few. It tunes off of a VE map created from certain criteria ie displacement, number of cylinders, size injectors, type of fuel, etc. Most standalones today test and develop there injector drivers for injector dynamics due to the amount off research and time they've put into injectors and how they act throughout there entire range. Determines the amount of air the engine can efficiently move and you work towards your target af but not by adjusting individual timing or fuel maps. It's pretty cool when you get into it.
Follow Ups	Haltec (and simular) vs. Nistune vs. ECU Chip - Jiro 23:15:34 07/16/14 from my understanding: - LivinTheDream 23:56:15 07/16/14 The newer PID style standalones are where it's at. - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 04:14:12 07/17/14 so basically you bolt on parts plug in the ecu and drive? (n/m) - LivinTheDream 17:37:57 07/17/14 It's Haltech - sparkie 00:42:06 07/17/14 Haltech ftw. - MixManMash 08:04:37 07/17/14 Hope someone figures the TC soon too - toykoz32 14:10:50 07/17/14 I think basically one needs to have the I/O Expander and - MixManMash 16:20:39 07/17/14 My thoughts.... - Madhatter10-6 09:09:30 07/17/14 Why is Haltech the clear winner amongst all the other? (n/m) - kickerzx 09:52:48 07/17/14 Couple of reasons... - Madhatter10-6 10:29:49 07/17/14 Fair points. Dont really care for the last one tho - kickerzx 10:45:33 07/17/14 Even moreso if you tuner is an idiot. - Antihero 11:04:00 07/17/14 I'm glad you posted. - bartz32tt 11:48:51 07/17/14 Sure, I`ll play ball... - kickerzx 15:40:44 07/17/14 Wowsers, lots of great info there. Thanks a lot! - bartz32tt 16:50:36 07/17/14 Why change? - Rob260 09:16:18 07/18/14 You know Vipec is the higher end of the two... - kickerzx 16:49:12 07/18/14 Those 4 boxes are pretty tiny in the overall scheme of - MixManMash 16:33:00 07/17/14 Depends on the application - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 11:10:18 07/17/14 Man. It's like trying to explain how a top fuel car sounds - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 12:09:14 07/17/14 I think you made a great point here: - MixManMash 12:56:36 07/17/14 Absolutely - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 18:07:11 07/17/14 Re: Depends on the application (n/m) - Krazyd27(Houston) 17:01:22 07/17/14 How much do you want to spend on your car? - Hipendicular 11:57:41 07/17/14 eh... the extra to make stock ecu work well add up. - Antihero 12:48:55 07/17/14 Exactly. Plus two MAFs, Selin translator, - bartz32tt 12:56:29 07/17/14 And don't think Haltech or any other stand alone is this - sparkie 16:08:42 07/17/14 True. I installed mine and Seb sent me a base file which - MixManMash 16:18:14 07/17/14 What is the point of that? If the basic wiring is available - Ashman2k2 16:23:15 07/17/14 Often a wire in version is better equiped than a plugin. (n/m) - kickerzx 16:34:37 07/17/14 And you dont need to rewire the whole engineharness. - kickerzx 16:43:03 07/17/14 Any tuners here have experience with stock CAS / - Ashman2k2 16:16:17 07/17/14 Interesting question that you might want to ask SZ about. - MixManMash 16:21:35 07/17/14 Re: Any tuners here have experience with stock CAS / - Rob260 09:15:25 07/18/14 In my opinion a 12-1 cas disc is required for a smooth upper - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 10:46:34 07/18/14
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