Subject	Helical is great for noise
Posted by	Zvil (FL) on May 04, 2014 at 6:56 PM
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In Reply To	Why not hellical dog engagement gears? posted by puchy on May 04, 2014 at 05:53 PM
Message	But if you're going to have the tranny built it's most likely because racecar. Helical gears cause lateral load which thrusts their respective shafts opposite/toward each other. This thrust causes a side load on the bearings and gears. That side load causes parasitic loss and heat. I'm willing to bet drive train loss on a straight cut transmission is probably 1/3 less total drivetrain loss than helical. Plus you get that sweet gear whine :) ____________________________________________________ "The dreaded 2nd windshiled wiper swipe when you turn it off its almost like tis showing you that it's boss, and it doesn't have to stop when you tell it to :("-College Boy (discussion on ptu relocation) "No good reason to put it there anyway. -Bernie (NoVA) False -vorpalZ False. -Bernie (NoVA) You're correct, there are 3 good reasons -vorpalZ False. -Bernie (NoVA) Wow, right again, just remembered another, make that 4 -vorpalZ" XD
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