Subject	VG30 vs Ford GT vs GTR
Posted by	Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on November 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM
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In Reply To	The response on the VG is limited by the head flow posted by Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on November 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Message	Not a perfect compare, but shows the basic principle. The Z is blue with GT3586R twin turbos The Ford GT is Red with GT3586R twin turbos The GTR is green with GTX2867R twin turbos Even though the GTR is only a 3.8 liter V6, the heads clearly flow more air than the GT40 5.4 liter V8. I wish I had a chart for GTX35's for all of them, I have a feeling I will in the next year or so :-)
Follow Ups	Lag? breather 700 turbo vs. Stock TT with pop - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 13:11:22 11/13/13 Evan's stock turbo E85 vs. Anthony M. 700 E85 - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 13:26:42 11/13/13 Looks like Anthony gets the best of both worlds. (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 15:10:08 11/13/13 do you have a chart for 700s and stock cams on e85? (n/m) - Bumblebeetuna 15:31:02 11/13/13 No 700s with stock cams on e85..... (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 17:07:55 11/13/13 You'll have a 2530, stock cam, E85 dyno in a few months =) (n/m) - The Hawk 17:50:27 11/13/13 Re: Evan's stock turbo E85 vs. Anthony M. 700 E85 - Bigwill837 15:43:41 11/13/13 The manifolds do seem to shift the power band with the small - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 17:14:34 11/13/13 Take a look at what I posted below. It seems to me like the - Evan(CA) 17:17:29 11/13/13 Manifolds - Bigwill837 17:45:30 11/13/13 I am more inclined to think it is cam timing - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:42:34 11/13/13 I did adjust mine but only to factory specs. They weren't - Evan_Wright (Ca) 19:08:58 11/13/13 My compression is about 155psi across the board. - Evan_Wright (Ca) 17:56:34 11/13/13 Looked over all of his runs vs. yours - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:34:07 11/13/13 Something else that the other Evan and I have is lower - Evan_Wright (Ca) 18:38:39 11/13/13 Have not seen much difference on a dynojet with diff gears - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:52:38 11/13/13 How much advance would you recommend for a setup like Evans. (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 17:59:48 11/14/13 That pull started before 2k RPM and he was close to 10psi - Evan(CA) 17:15:32 11/13/13 Yep. Blue TT was at almost twice the boost by 2750. (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 17:59:16 11/13/13 Are the cars boost controllers hooked up differently? (n/m) - induetime 00:41:17 11/14/13 Good point, what's the most optimal method? - bartz32tt 11:56:01 11/14/13 Would not effect spool, will not make a difference until - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 12:32:56 11/14/13 Speaking of that incredible head work, I'd be interested to - MixManMash 17:06:12 11/13/13 aliaZ is the man! - maglito 21:20:42 11/13/13 it was good to see you again my friend (n/m) - aliaZ 08:01:00 11/14/13 A fellow collegeboy part-out scavenger! - Aqualung 12:08:18 11/14/13 thanks Greg (n/m) - aliaZ 08:02:37 11/14/13 ?I don't doubt a 700 HP car is a blast to drive - -Grimm- 14:01:11 11/13/13 Well.... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:10:07 11/13/13 do you have traction control ....... - Madhatter10-6 14:36:54 11/13/13 No, I prefer to control the power (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:39:11 11/13/13 It's a turbo car and you have a boost controller... - Antihero 11:12:42 11/14/13 Greg, when you say 'full breather mods' are you including - RAGTPZ 14:16:48 11/13/13 Yes, all of those 700 set ups have cams and port work - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:37:24 11/13/13 Nice to read..guess the heads will make me smile more... (n/m) - Z ONLY1 21:27:04 11/13/13 is the GTX2863 Tom's car by chance? (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:21:21 11/13/13 No, that one belongs to Jesse. (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:37:59 11/13/13 You folks in Edmonton are good to compare - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:55:43 11/13/13 fine, we'll move then :) (n/m) - vorpalZ 15:03:34 11/13/13 Meh, forget moving. Let's just dig a big hole 2200 ft deep. (n/m) - MixManMash 17:02:46 11/13/13 But won't the hole fill up with snow? (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 17:18:28 11/13/13 We will heat the hole. :) (n/m) - MixManMash 21:04:22 11/13/13 Re: We will heat the hole. :) - LJZTT 21:16:55 11/13/13 ROFL!!!! like. (n/m) - spicyZ 08:57:47 11/14/13 yup, big sale on Hole Heaters @ Princess Auto this week (n/m) - vorpalZ 10:00:11 11/14/13 Tom was running GTX2867s. - MixManMash 17:04:47 11/13/13 Agree (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 17:19:05 11/13/13 Re: Agree - RobZ32 18:05:14 11/13/13 Correct................ - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:14:11 11/13/13 So many (if not most) on here can't drive like you can... - ConVerTT 17:18:55 11/13/13 Go to a empty parking lot, push the car as hard as you can - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:20:54 11/13/13 sign me up for 550 lb-ft @3k rpm, please, thanks (n/m) - LJZTT 18:26:26 11/13/13 With all wheel drive, most passengers get out saying - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:05:17 11/13/13 why not use a vh45dett instead? should make even more - Zvil (FL) 23:04:31 11/13/13 Can you make VH45 heads flow as much or more than a VR38's? (n/m) - MixManMash 14:53:59 11/15/13 Holy crap man! - ConVerTT 18:58:09 11/13/13 LOL! Me too! We had an ice storm followed by snow one - SMAZ (OKC) 19:06:59 11/13/13 someone needs to put that engine in a z :) - Spectrum (WI) 20:38:16 11/13/13 So is it almost more cost effective to get a used GTR? (n/m) - Ashman2k2 21:12:39 11/13/13 don't hold your breath waiting for Z32-like price - LJZTT 21:23:17 11/13/13 I forgot that its godzilla. I thought "no way its the green" (n/m) - LivinTheDream 22:39:23 11/13/13 i now feel like modding my car is pointless (n/m) - DbestiZ1 07:46:16 11/14/13 I know bigger displacement is one of the keys to have better - TheTwinZ (Peru) 08:29:13 11/14/13 The response on the VG is limited by the head flow - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 11:31:11 11/14/13 VG30 vs Ford GT vs GTR - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 11:46:43 11/14/13 And the GTR even had the less GTX2867R turbos! - VERTTZ 08:31:55 11/16/13 There's 20ish years of technology difference - BlackholeZ 15:12:49 11/14/13 Billet head? - The Hawk 19:58:09 11/15/13 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 00:11:53 11/17/13 My Nissan Juke can take your GTR Greg.... - LivinTheDream 10:25:30 11/14/13 Juke vs GTR - LivinTheDream 10:35:20 11/14/13 Saw that at ZDAYZ, still in shock about the sticker price (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 11:32:50 11/14/13 DAMN $600k F me. N I thought I was suprised when they - LivinTheDream 18:23:49 11/14/13 well yeah, but you cant let all those lambos and GTRs - LJZTT 18:24:41 11/13/13 How was SEMA, are you guys still there? - Machtavian 20:29:32 11/13/13 How do you think this setup would workout? - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 05:47:39 11/14/13 I'm running high compression because of the block being - MixManMash 06:17:22 11/14/13 BTW, I thought the GTX30s would be surging on a VG30DETT. (n/m) - MixManMash 06:19:35 11/14/13 They come with a anti-surge housing. - Machtavian 10:16:55 11/14/13 Thanks for that explanation. Makes sense. (n/m) - MixManMash 13:37:26 11/14/13 3 cars in the process of that set up currently - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 10:47:31 11/14/13 Have you dynoed any high compression stock turbo cars with - michaell32 (FL) 19:51:07 11/14/13 Take note mr300zxtt (n/m) - spicyZ 09:01:08 11/14/13 Mmm - more like this ... - ConVerTT 10:18:28 11/14/13 Have you ever dyno'd a VG30 with stoker kit??? Wonder - LivinTheDream 10:29:03 11/14/13 Yes, it has more to do with the air the heads can move. (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 11:33:43 11/14/13 I's imagine the upper and lower plenum are capable enough - LivinTheDream 19:38:45 11/14/13 So how do the new GTX's fall in? - BlackholeZ 15:29:07 11/14/13
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