Subject	I do not need to have tuned with E85 to understand...
Posted by	Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on June 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM
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In Reply To	I don't understand why you agree! if you just posted posted by jmurcybizd on June 14, 2011 at 11:30 PM
Message	I have tuned with lots of different fuels and I have a understanding of tuning and fuel burn rates. If I know that general gasoline has a stoichiometric ratio of 14.7 to 1, and I know that E85 has a stoichiometric ratio of 9.765 to 1, I can reasonably conclude that with the proper tune, I am going to burn significantly more fuel with E85 over gasoline. I have also researched E85 and have found across the board results, from car manufacturers reports, tuners reports, government reports, ect. They all come up with 25 to 35% more fuel burned with E85 on engines running the same compression ratio compared to gasoline. Make no mistake, I am very interested in E85, it is absolutely more cost effective than race fuel. E85 allows you to make much more power than pump fuel, for a similar end cost. Your statement of not consuming more fuel with E85 is simply not true with a safely tuned, normal compression ratio engine.
Follow Ups	Matt from Driven Authority...New dyno #'s for E85 see Video - jmurcybizd 13:33:58 06/13/11 what are the mods on that car? (n/m) - aliaZ 14:16:04 06/13/11 Re: what are the mods on that car? - RobZ32 14:27:17 06/13/11 Re: Re: what are the mods on that car? - jmurcybizd 15:41:41 06/13/11 basic block with forged piston.. - Matt P. 15:15:03 06/13/11 is the HKS DLI necessary? - aliaZ 15:51:18 06/13/11 Damn... thats all I need for 600whp, Im almost there - Z32TT-R 19:17:57 06/13/11 Is the rest of the fuel system stock? like fuel lines - DarkZide 20:39:16 06/13/11 Re: Matt from Driven Authority...New dyno #'s for E85 see Video - jmurcybizd 15:35:15 06/13/11 thanks man... (n/m) - Matt P. 22:56:29 06/13/11 Boosted1 Dyno tune vs Chalo's Dyno tune.. - jmurcybizd 16:49:48 06/13/11 E-85 and Q16 should provide pretty close to the same hp. - not4resaleZ 17:51:39 06/13/11 Re: E-85 and Q16 should provide pretty close to the same hp. - jmurcybizd 18:46:12 06/13/11 Re: Re: E-85 and Q16 should provide pretty close to the same hp. - aliaZ 20:01:19 06/13/11 what are you going to do? - vulcanrush 20:08:16 06/13/11 1000cc - aliaZ 20:25:57 06/13/11 and flowing more fuel helps even more. - not4resaleZ 21:07:59 06/13/11 Q16 has more octane but not more HP. This is because - not4resaleZ 20:09:24 06/13/11 Who tuned it? could be Chalo has a healthier motor?? (n/m) - Z32TT-R 19:32:13 06/13/11 NvM just saw, he seems to be having throttle body issues - Z32TT-R 19:42:20 06/13/11 Re: Who tuned it? Matt from Driven Athourity in Sacramento - jmurcybizd 00:39:07 06/14/11 The amount of boost you run plays an even bigger role - John (MD) 19:48:57 06/13/11 Some info that might help you......... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 10:22:17 06/14/11 Re: One way to find out: Dyno on friday q16 vs E85 same PSI - jmurcybizd 10:40:40 06/14/11 . (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:53:50 06/14/11 what's Chalo's afr? - vulcanrush 12:53:31 06/14/11 12.5-11.9 ... - Matt P. 23:28:36 06/14/11 12.5-11.9 ... - Matt P. 01:55:23 06/15/11 Matt , did you disable O2 feedback on the tune ? (n/m) - ztunerz 09:05:01 06/15/11 Congrats on some superior fine tuning (n/m) - jschrauwen 20:46:36 06/13/11 Re: Congrats on some superior fine tuning - jmurcybizd 00:42:36 06/14/11 very nice but how about the following - ztunerz 01:45:15 06/14/11 I talk to chalo about E85 consumption - jmurcybizd 10:07:54 06/14/11 There is NO WAY you will get the same mileage on e85 - ztunerz 14:19:20 06/14/11 Agreed (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:54:27 06/14/11 Re: MAYBE THIS WILL HELP GREG. IT LOOKS LIKE SOLID FEEDBACK - jmurcybizd 20:11:40 06/14/11 If that is the case, the engine is running dangerously lean - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:53:31 06/14/11 can i get some free turbos and i'll pay you back in 2 years? (n/m) - vulcanrush 09:00:50 06/15/11 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what? - SactoTodd 23:15:09 06/14/11 Youre an idiot (n/m) - ZiNnYc 06:43:28 06/15/11 I don't understand why you agree! if you just posted - jmurcybizd 23:30:52 06/14/11 I do not need to have tuned with E85 to understand... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 11:29:58 06/15/11 This ^^^^ is accurate. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 18:05:36 06/15/11 Re: There is NO WAY you will get the same mileage on e85 - jmurcybizd 20:06:15 06/14/11 O really! So a better E.C.U huh? im assuming it has timing - jmurcybizd 23:16:07 06/14/11 OMFG. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 06:57:59 06/15/11 haha (n/m) - nissanguyz32 07:04:17 06/15/11 oops - aliaZ 07:28:19 06/15/11 i am unsure of where to start explaining how a 335I - ztunerz 08:31:21 06/15/11 Somewhere in a California ghetto, his head just exploded (n/m) - ZiNnYc 08:40:54 06/15/11 WOW!! His name is Ztuner for a reason you tool. - The Hawk 12:01:44 06/15/11 Donde esta los dyno charts (n/m) - ZiNnYc 05:32:06 06/14/11 dyno chart! - Matt P. 09:14:00 06/14/11 Thats cool thanks (n/m) - ztunerz 09:29:38 06/14/11 not a problem harry... (n/m) - Matt P. 10:04:54 06/14/11 Check this out.....300zxclub....what Chalo said: - jmurcybizd 10:26:32 06/14/11 Re: after Chalo statement; Winfactory topfeed is the way to - jmurcybizd 10:46:41 06/14/11 lovin the comments and the good words... (n/m) - Matt P. 10:55:03 06/14/11 what does ethanol have to do with trees? - vulcanrush 11:02:36 06/14/11 Its Bayarea word for Saving "money" - jmurcybizd 16:43:36 06/14/11 who's talking trash? - vulcanrush 18:18:23 06/14/11 Re: who's talking trash? - jmurcybizd 19:47:02 06/14/11 Its Bayarea word for Saving "money" - jmurcybizd 21:35:47 06/14/11 Honest question - 90GoldZ 23:32:25 06/14/11 Re: Honest question.....lol, - jmurcybizd 23:42:01 06/14/11 you aren't doing him or the shop any favors, btw (n/m) - LJZTT 06:13:27 06/15/11 they're one and the same, imo, Lawrence (n/m) - vulcanrush 09:02:50 06/15/11 Now see this is why Chalo made look like a complete idiot @ - jmurcybizd 07:55:44 06/16/11 hey, we all can't be smart like you - vulcanrush 08:55:05 06/16/11
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