copying designs and selling for cheaper kills innovation. My only point is we all know there is a multitude of people who have bought the manifolds and I haven't read about anyone with issues (if there is a hidden assortment of problems then my bad). That said they are relatively new so I can't make any true assumptions until down the road. The issues I see with AMS are the moral qualms not whether the products work/quality.
Anyway...I could care less about the manifolds. I have been eying those turbos for awhile though.