Subject	I will admit to not being the worlds most articulate person
Posted by	malman2100 on August 15, 2008 at 12:20 PM
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In Reply To	"If you base your opinion on your experiences that's fine." posted by Dave N on August 15, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Message	...so please forgive me when I do not find the words to properly convey my point of view. The point I was trying to make is that a lot of folks on this forum have based their opinions about Z1 based on things other than their own personal experiences. I understand your point about the amount of complaints that you have seen and therefore basing your opinion on the volume of negativity. But what about the people that have good things to say? The environment here is such that Z1 can't do anything right. I see a lot of comments about killing innovation, many times directed at Z1. What sense does that make when they have developed more products for our cars than anyone? They get no credit for Z Nationals, in fact a lot of members choose to make fun of the event for some reason. I keep talking because I have this hope of getting across to someone here that the picture that tt.net has of them is wrong. I guess I just need to keep flogging that hope until it is entirely gone. Click here for my Z's profile Click here for pics of my TT conversion at Z1
Follow Ups	avoid z1, take your z somewhere else - smoothav8r 22:37:58 08/14/08 That sounds about from most posts - Drk93TT 22:42:56 08/14/08 Re: That sounds about from most posts - smoothav8r 22:54:22 08/14/08 So are you upset because they haven't finished it - nissanguyz32 22:53:48 08/14/08 Re: So are you upset because they haven't finished it - smoothav8r 23:01:06 08/14/08 J-Lo? (n/m) - LJZTT 23:50:45 08/14/08 Re: J-Lo? - smoothav8r 07:26:32 08/15/08 Re: J-Lo? - smoothav8r 07:46:29 08/15/08 If you need to, talk to your first sergeant. - Waggz 23:50:47 08/14/08 Re: If you need to, talk to your first sergeant. - Alex_SlicktopTT (WA) 00:19:45 08/15/08 Sounds like you are promoting the United States Mafia. - 600ZXR 00:55:43 08/15/08 Alex, can I get your 1st sergeant's contact info? - LitlElvis 13:44:34 08/15/08 ok, that was priceless! (n/m) - ZEngineer 14:34:02 08/15/08 I'm doubtful that it will help though... some people's kids. - LitlElvis 00:31:53 08/16/08 Re: If you need to, talk to your first sergeant. - smoothav8r 07:29:17 08/15/08 I would buy parts from Z1 - but never use their service. (n/m) - SuparexTT 23:54:22 08/14/08 I agree but go through someone else that sells their stuff - Bret (Generation Z) 00:49:03 08/15/08 2nd. Coz is the man. - Pilot.P (NZ) 01:10:06 08/15/08 this is very good to know...i had done business with.. - LaRose 01:10:34 08/15/08 Bernie (NoVA) is also a great person to deal with for parts - Dave N 01:18:36 08/15/08 2nd. (n/m) - flabz 04:10:44 08/15/08 Cant forget Greg @ Specialty Z... (n/m) - eriksu9 07:47:46 08/15/08 big 2nd (n/m) - Machtavian 07:53:04 08/15/08 Can't believe I'm agreeing with you, but Greg is that good. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:39:11 08/15/08 Agree with me more...You'll feel better about yourself (n/m) - eriksu9 09:37:24 08/15/08 Don't push your luck, junior (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:28:52 08/15/08 Sorry Greg!! I meant to include you in that list as well. - Dave N 11:25:13 08/15/08 Go to ZSolutions in Birmingham. - TriniTT 09:32:15 08/15/08 get an engine from Kyle. you will not be disappointed. (n/m) - apudapus 12:19:59 08/15/08 thanks...i have a long list of questions for him..... - LaRose 13:22:19 08/15/08 av8r? you fly??? (n/m) - 1badz32 (MN) 01:26:32 08/15/08 Re: av8r? you fly??? - smoothav8r 07:31:09 08/15/08 Awsome... i envy you man. - 1badz32 (MN) 14:34:16 08/15/08 Re: Awsome... i envy you man. - BigTDogg (MA) 14:48:59 08/15/08 Pretty close.... - 1badz32 (MN) 15:42:54 08/15/08 "If the wings are moving faster than the fuselage - BigTDogg (MA) 17:13:29 08/15/08 Meh, wings that spin are better than wings that dont. - 1badz32 (MN) 04:45:16 08/16/08 Re: Awsome... i envy you man. - smoothav8r 17:42:08 08/15/08 Thanks, itll be a long stretch, but i'm going street to seat - 1badz32 (MN) 04:48:28 08/16/08 Sorry to hear it Barry - SeedyROM 02:14:02 08/15/08 Re: Sorry to hear it Barry - smoothav8r 07:35:43 08/15/08 Good to hear. Hope things work out for you. (n/m) - SeedyROM 16:19:53 08/15/08 Is your e-mail address correct in your profile? (n/m) - WoodmanZ 02:35:51 08/15/08 Re: Is your e-mail address correct in your profile? - smoothav8r 07:51:48 08/15/08 Sorry to hear about your problems/experience.... - malman2100 05:38:41 08/15/08 No bad experiences here with Z1 (n/m) - jschrauwen 06:01:53 08/15/08 maybe. Z1=AMS (n/m) - flabz 06:44:56 08/15/08 Hitler never killed *me*. (n/m) - Kenny 09:35:45 08/15/08 So you equate the way you feel about Z1 to the - malman2100 12:32:45 08/15/08 Actually it does if you read the previous post. - CincyZX 12:37:57 08/15/08 LoL! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 12:46:13 08/15/08 I saw the previous post and I think that is... - malman2100 18:02:06 08/15/08 lol - aliaZ 07:08:04 08/15/08 and I would expect you to say as much. - malman2100 07:59:42 08/15/08 Well this guy is out 35,000$ dude... didn't you just blow - amp300zx 08:23:02 08/15/08 My engine blew because of my own mistake. It had nothing to - malman2100 08:39:35 08/15/08 A Better JDM motor?? No such thing. It's a crap shoot no - Nick(CT) 16:34:00 08/15/08 I'm privy to information that you are not. - aliaZ 08:29:12 08/15/08 Maybe that is so (the part about your info) - malman2100 08:49:31 08/15/08 hmmm - aliaZ 09:24:19 08/15/08 I was a mod for them once and a reason why I stepped - Spongerider :) 12:51:17 08/15/08 Bull ish dude, They call the truth "sponsor bashing" - BigTDogg (MA) 15:42:29 08/15/08 LOL I thought I was only one causing trouble over there. - Piranha(AZ) 16:14:45 08/15/08 Why are you guys even trying to hang out over there? - TT XTZ 18:16:51 08/15/08 well, welcome back (n/m) - Halo Z 22:12:48 08/15/08 lol - aliaZ 19:29:59 08/15/08 You have quite the mouth on you. - malman2100 20:13:31 08/15/08 boohoo - aliaZ 22:27:05 08/15/08 Not in the least. I am not feeling an ounce of anger.... - malman2100 23:09:59 08/15/08 I am an adult, and I type like one over there, sans curses - BigTDogg (MA) 09:21:20 08/16/08 funny, i was... - Halo Z 22:09:42 08/15/08 Halo, who told you to do that? - malman2100 00:10:11 08/16/08 about 4 or 5 years ago. - Halo Z 11:49:49 08/16/08 Re: and I would expect you to say as much. - smoothav8r 11:41:29 08/15/08 Re: Sorry to hear about your problems/experience.... - smoothav8r 07:44:38 08/15/08 I totally get what you are saying.... - malman2100 08:06:59 08/15/08 I totally get what you are saying.... - malman2100 08:35:41 08/15/08 Spent over 45k in the last 2 1/2 years @ Z1 - Z_Pilot 10:00:33 08/15/08 Re: Spent over 45k in the last 2 1/2 years @ Z1 - smoothav8r 11:25:31 08/15/08 Re: Re: Spent over 45k in the last 2 1/2 years @ Z1 - Z_Pilot 11:35:18 08/15/08 Re: Re: Re: Spent over 45k in the last 2 1/2 years @ Z1 (n/m) - smoothav8r 11:45:38 08/15/08 Re: Re: Re: Spent over 45k in the last 2 1/2 years @ Z1 - smoothav8r 11:47:39 08/15/08 Re: Im very meticulous - DVDBURN (MD) 15:48:35 08/15/08 Granted, I havent spent that much ... - Cruicad 11:35:07 08/15/08 Re: Granted, I havent spent that much ... - smoothav8r 11:43:00 08/15/08 Well... - Cruicad 11:57:39 08/15/08 Well... - Cruicad 13:04:25 08/15/08 Re: Well... - smoothav8r 13:17:07 08/15/08 We are taking care of it. - Russell@Z1 11:34:50 08/16/08 "If you base your opinion on your experiences that's fine." - Dave N 11:47:52 08/15/08 Re: "If you base your opinion on your experiences that's fine." (n/m) - Z_Pilot 11:58:20 08/15/08 Re: "If you base your opinion on your experiences that's fine." (n/m) - Z_Pilot 11:58:31 08/15/08 I will admit to not being the worlds most articulate person - malman2100 12:20:53 08/15/08 Flog away mal I got your back. (n/m) - Z_Pilot 12:36:25 08/15/08 lol....thanks man - malman2100 12:41:33 08/15/08 Don't you mean you got his front? - CincyZX 12:42:41 08/15/08 I wasn't trying to pick on you with my response. - Dave N 13:01:53 08/15/08 they need to rehire Ash... (n/m) - Gizmo 12:27:25 08/15/08 a matter of time, you'll be burned eventually. (n/m) - Medici (NorCal) 12:18:04 08/15/08 Re: a matter of time, you'll be burned eventually. - Z_Pilot 12:22:10 08/15/08 lol - you're a fool (n/m) - Medici (NorCal) 12:28:24 08/15/08 Re: lol - you're a fool - Z_Pilot 12:31:56 08/15/08 You asked... - Medici (NorCal) 13:01:31 08/15/08 Re: You asked... - Z_Pilot 13:06:34 08/15/08 I agree, BOOHOO, it is sad a business sunk so low. so sad - Medici (NorCal) 13:11:28 08/15/08 No offense, but you're a noobie... - BigTDogg (MA) 13:06:44 08/15/08 OH, he knows enough alright. He might even work for them :) - DVDBURN (MD) 14:46:33 08/15/08 you on the payroll? (n/m) - Gizmo 12:29:45 08/15/08 Re: you on the payroll? - Z_Pilot 12:43:49 08/15/08 OK, so this is the second reference to Z1 contributing more - Dave N 13:07:14 08/15/08 *crickets chirping* (n/m) - Dave N 14:46:18 08/15/08 Re: OK, so this is the second reference to Z1 contributing more - Z_Pilot 15:16:20 08/15/08 Question = not answered (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:37:31 08/15/08 Typical Z1 sheep. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 16:05:43 08/15/08 You're missing the point. You and malman have both asserted - Dave N 15:59:15 08/15/08 An honest answer to your question - malman2100 23:57:35 08/15/08 Here are a couple - Russell@Z1 10:58:47 08/16/08 *crickets chirping* OH BUT THEY'RE SO AWFUL!!! (n/m) - Cherry_Pearl_Red 17:43:08 08/16/08 LOL a couple. But those are just stickers and pedal sets. - Z_Pilot 18:24:15 08/16/08 Hoo-boy! I guess you showed me with that clever quip. - Dave N 13:55:54 08/17/08 What was the margin of error on that poll? - na300zx (OH) 06:39:07 08/16/08 Notice how the conversations go here about Z1 - malman2100 12:39:00 08/15/08 you're right, this forum sucks - ZEngineer 13:12:36 08/15/08 there's some irony for ya (n/m) - Guapo 13:14:58 08/15/08 More drama here than a Sorority House (n/m) - Z_Pilot 13:34:50 08/15/08 ya, malcolm's really bringing it isnt he. (n/m) - Medici (NorCal) 13:44:14 08/15/08 lol - Bezza 13:45:23 08/15/08 The bottom line is... - John B. (NJ) 14:16:11 08/15/08 Agreed - induetime 17:22:45 08/15/08
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