Subject	The point is this...
Posted by	Kenny on September 12, 2007 at 8:29 PM
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In Reply To	I dont have any means of knowing exactly how many people posted by Ash's Z on September 12, 2007 at 05:18 PM
Message	...you didn't properly engineer and test the product before you started selling it. Your customers were beta testers, and most ditched it. Some came to you, some just outright threw it away, and some of the fans just failed. This is what happens when you don't do your research before you start marketing a product. You found what you thought was a good solution, used it on a couple cars, sold the product and now you've spent the last year trying to find band-aid fixes to keep your temps down. Double-pass radiator, new fan-shrouds now with high-speed flaps!, different fans, auxiliary fan running 100% of the time, the list goes on because you sold an untested, unproven product to customers who took your word that it would work. "What else can I do for you?" Engineer > Test > Sell. Not the other way around. Recursively Yours, Kenny... PETZ Member #5 You guys rock socks. (Click for pie-chart) Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. - EW Dijkstra
Follow Ups	>>>> AshSPEC Dual Fuel Pump Control Module <<<< - Ash's Z 01:21:30 09/12/07 Very interesting (n/m) - Fast300 01:33:31 09/12/07 hi (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 02:12:58 09/12/07 you're sick (n/m) - krazykyle 02:46:42 09/12/07 I'm IN.. Keep em' comming (n/m) - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 05:31:14 09/12/07 I need this like last week, hopefully this actually comes - Magnum 06:06:14 09/12/07 A great mod to go along with the MASSIVES and the - 240Z FeO2 10:33:29 09/12/07 2.5 pipes (artist's conception): - 240Z FeO2 11:11:38 09/12/07 LOL (n/m) - AZHeat 12:07:53 09/12/07 but what amp is the fuel pump relay feeding this unit? - FANTAZ(Power Supply Racing) 07:39:23 09/12/07 Good stuff, Ash. - BradZ (FL) 07:57:06 09/12/07 Nice work! (n/m) - 550HPTT 08:05:22 09/12/07 Nice, are up-sizing the lines in this application too? - UrnZway 08:25:02 09/12/07 Awesome R+D Ash..... - eriksu9 09:08:54 09/12/07 *drools. (n/m) - nemo1080 09:28:42 09/12/07 Your smart! I want to clone your brain! (n/m) - jcieslik 09:40:25 09/12/07 Nice...Good to see you back in action. (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 10:30:18 09/12/07 Now on to the 2.5 inch intercooler pipes for the Massives (n/m) - AZHeat 11:49:47 09/12/07 ha, yeah. start a new project - Alan(NJ) 11:55:17 09/12/07 Sounds simply fabulous, but I suspect it will probably take - phillyz 11:02:39 09/12/07 Well in some cases you can indeed acheive 700+ rwhp - Russell@Z1 11:42:01 09/12/07 So, how long before you Copy it and sell it?? (n/m) - Eishozzzz 03:00:39 09/13/07 Haha. :) (n/m) - Ash's Z 13:56:45 09/12/07 Re: >>>> AshSPEC Dual Fuel Pump Control Module <<<< - sparkie 11:31:51 09/12/07 You run ONE relay and fuse for TWO pumps? I have mine - AZHeat 11:45:12 09/12/07 Runs? (n/m) - Kenny 12:27:32 09/12/07 Sold? (n/m) - AZHeat 12:48:44 09/12/07 So that means no ;). (n/m) - Kenny 15:05:58 09/12/07 Oh, and yes! - Kenny 15:12:07 09/12/07 Why are you still here then? (n/m) - AZHeat 15:37:48 09/12/07 To annoy you, silly. (n/m) - Kenny 15:45:04 09/12/07 Glad you found your purpose on here. (n/m) - AZHeat 15:47:02 09/12/07 runs? (n/m) - Guapo 12:51:21 09/12/07 Kenny monkey? (n/m) - AZHeat 12:56:43 09/12/07 So, your answer is clearly a "no". (n/m) - Guapo 13:00:05 09/12/07 Does it realy matter to you? Why do you care ? (n/m) - AZHeat 13:05:17 09/12/07 You're portraying that your setup is running when it isn't. (n/m) - Guapo 13:06:44 09/12/07 Again does it matter? My setup ran with my - AZHeat 13:20:04 09/12/07 I care because you're posting misleading info. (n/m) - Guapo 13:34:29 09/12/07 What is mis-leading about my fuel pump setup? - AZHeat 13:48:26 09/12/07 the part about you saying that it "runs" (n/m) - Guapo 13:49:38 09/12/07 If you want to knit pick... - 550HPTT 11:56:21 09/12/07 If he wanted to "knit pick"... - SeedyROM 12:39:19 09/12/07 The stock FPC controls the ground (-) to the - AZHeat 12:54:51 09/12/07 Almost certain it's the negative - SeedyROM 15:11:24 09/12/07 My walbros are hard wired to ground. So I - AZHeat 15:21:32 09/12/07 Seedy deserves no more of "a break" than Ash does - 550HPTT 14:00:30 09/12/07 Read it again. - SeedyROM 15:04:11 09/12/07 Yes u got me on one thing... Meant to say Sparkie and not - 550HPTT 15:38:32 09/12/07 Actually, multiple things. Did you re-read it or not? - SeedyROM 17:11:19 09/12/07 You are about ignorant - 550HPTT 17:56:42 09/12/07 yeah but its not "bolt in" or plug in etc (n/m) - ztunerz 17:40:45 09/12/07 This is true - SeedyROM 01:35:06 09/13/07 Re: If you want to knit pick... - sparkie 14:58:58 09/12/07 Re: Re: If you want to knit pick... - 550HPTT 15:50:07 09/12/07 I applaud you for your efforts here, but you have not - RAGTPZ 12:59:56 09/12/07 How many Z's are running dual fuel pumps? Not that - AZHeat 13:31:12 09/12/07 I have personally done 6 with dual pumps - Kyle(Houston) 13:37:10 09/12/07 Good to know. (n/m) - AZHeat 13:49:24 09/12/07 Agreed, but I am not the one who is now marketing a product - RAGTPZ 15:21:10 09/12/07 I agree, I am leary of any homegrowned electrical - AZHeat 15:27:20 09/12/07 LOL, no ratshack components in this device. (n/m) - Ash's Z 16:26:37 09/12/07 You have a hi-res of your sig? - SeedyROM 15:13:16 09/12/07 I think so, I'll email it to you when I get a chance. (n/m) - RAGTPZ 15:17:09 09/12/07 Thanks! (n/m) - SeedyROM 15:32:27 09/12/07 This device isn't something I threw together over a few - Ash's Z 17:07:08 09/12/07 2.5 ic update?? (n/m) - volcomstone550 14:42:07 09/12/07 We are only waiting to hear back from our manufacturer - Ash's Z 14:52:39 09/12/07 So you gave up on fixing the broken electric fan and shroud? (n/m) - Kenny 15:11:14 09/12/07 Tell us oh great Kenneth, what you have r+d for - eriksu9 15:30:41 09/12/07 Let's draw some clear lines here. - Kenny 16:07:05 09/12/07 Maybe you should do some volunteer work with your - AZHeat 16:18:07 09/12/07 3/10 - Kenny 20:22:35 09/12/07 Sorry, haven't seen that movie yet. It was filmed - AZHeat 11:23:29 09/13/07 No, I've been running one in my ZTT for 17K+ miles now >>>> - Ash's Z 16:25:12 09/12/07 And the 40+ customer cars? - Kenny 16:34:40 09/12/07 There were more than 40 of the Koyo fan/shroud kits - Ash's Z 16:38:06 09/12/07 If you have the statistics, post them. - Kenny 16:48:50 09/12/07 Get a life, seriously. (n/m) - AZHeat 17:06:35 09/12/07 I dont have any means of knowing exactly how many people - Ash's Z 17:18:38 09/12/07 The point is this... - Kenny 20:29:27 09/12/07 The point is, get off Ash's nuts, or do some of your own r&d (n/m) - ghostinator (fl) 20:49:06 09/12/07 Grow up =). (n/m) - Kenny 21:09:54 09/12/07 Kenny, I really do appreciate the fact you take such a - Ash's Z 02:54:46 09/13/07 8) (n/m) - yosha 15:22:32 09/12/07 Ash check your mail in regards to a core ecu for my - jspeckid 16:02:46 09/12/07 No email here from you. Where did you send it to? (n/m) - Ash's Z 16:31:29 09/12/07 hi you get my email with the address for the ribbon cable ? (n/m) - ztunerz 17:43:30 09/12/07 I did - it was shipped out last week direct to you. - Ash's Z 19:04:31 09/12/07
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