Subject	True, I'll give you that
Posted by	SeedyROM on July 27, 2007 at 2:19 PM
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In Reply To	I took such a "schlacking" on the 3 inch debate ... posted by The Devils Z on July 27, 2007 at 01:48 PM
Message	Though I still feel a divorced, 2.5" in those days was a better investment than the 3" single pipes of the time. We're seeing that the tapered, divorced and elongated design makes a huge difference in power delivery and backpressure, something the old 3" did not do (and Greg did tune/dyno some 3" cars back then). IMHO, 3" simply wasn't ready for "primetime" back then. I admit you were also ahead of the game but I doubt your old pipes were anything close to what you have now in terms of performance. I don't recall, what were your first 3" pipes? Were they custom or RT/B&B? www.SoCalZCrew.com - Come find out how we do it in the West!
Follow Ups	3 inch parts.............. - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:51:18 07/26/07 What is the difference in loudness between the 3" catback - olyar15 15:58:53 07/26/07 Well..... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:09:22 07/26/07 When will the quad tips be available? (n/m) - Piranha 23:12:23 07/26/07 Come and listen... - mikem@ztune.ca 16:17:16 07/26/07 I've heard your car, and I like how it sounds. Problem is - olyar15 16:35:03 07/26/07 Then... - mikem@ztune.ca 16:55:47 07/26/07 I was sold when I talked to you before.... - awesome90tt 16:00:59 07/26/07 Man, Specialty Z and their wonderful parts and service - dregos 16:09:35 07/26/07 Classifieds will be flooded... - pionkej 16:11:25 07/26/07 How do you think mine ended up there?? ;-) (n/m) - Rule12b 20:19:31 07/26/07 Amazing! - induetime 16:12:06 07/26/07 Re: Amazing! - awesome90tt 16:13:30 07/26/07 Stock turbos with 3 ich made 24 PSI 450 RWHP 500 RWT (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:16:07 07/26/07 how long do you think stockers will last at those levels - The Devils Z 12:29:45 07/27/07 is there an ETA for when they will be "officially" for sale? (n/m) - LJZTT 16:12:55 07/26/07 "They are officially" for sale :-) (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:17:30 07/26/07 awesome - LJZTT 16:22:12 07/26/07 You have Email :-).... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 16:23:16 07/26/07 Re: "They are officially" for sale :-) - Twindragon 16:31:38 07/26/07 Still working on getting it all up. (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:34:57 07/26/07 <3 (n/m) - Broke_as_**** 16:16:58 07/26/07 Impressive! I'm very happy to see that all the work that - TheTwinZ (Peru) 16:19:32 07/26/07 love mine :) (n/m) - JaffaUK 16:20:07 07/26/07 I'm glad all of SPZ R&Ding is paying off!! ;-) (n/m) - Spongerider :) 16:21:19 07/26/07 Looks great guys. See you tomorrow morning - Mike(La Canada) 16:25:14 07/26/07 Righteous (n/m) - Summeronthechain 16:25:44 07/26/07 3" Sport 530 Dyno - mikem@ztune.ca 16:26:49 07/26/07 nice photoshop :) jk (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 16:39:34 07/26/07 lol! That's MS Excel! - mikem@ztune.ca 16:50:39 07/26/07 haha I love how you have a green n :) I know its legit. (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 16:57:03 07/26/07 full 3 inch system :) (n/m) - The Devils Z 16:28:45 07/26/07 do you have the a/f ratios for these dynos ? (n/m) - The Devils Z 16:29:42 07/26/07 I love my 3" diameter pipe. - Scotts94z32 16:37:28 07/26/07 They look so much like art it's almost a shame to hide them - audioquest 16:43:39 07/26/07 What kind of gains could I expect running... - jickel180 16:58:17 07/26/07 In my experience... - mikem@ztune.ca 17:05:38 07/26/07 Can you even run these DPs with 2.5 inch test pipes - awesome90tt 17:08:11 07/26/07 You can. It's not ideal, but it will bolt to 2.5" mid pipes - olyar15 17:15:35 07/26/07 Yes, you can...even stock cats... - mikem@ztune.ca 17:39:51 07/26/07 Re: Yes, you can...even stock cats... - awesome90tt 18:26:53 07/26/07 The downpipe area is where the largest gain comes from..... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:55:24 07/26/07 What if you have a 2.5 inch downpipe and 3 inch tp? - AZHeat 21:25:43 07/26/07 I doubt it. You are already too far from the turbo to - Scotts94z32 10:17:40 07/27/07 cant wait to upgrade! (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 17:41:21 07/26/07 can you explain the gain just by using the 3" Dps and - zyoulater 17:49:43 07/26/07 3" DP/TP & 2.5" catback - mikem@ztune.ca 18:30:21 07/26/07 Correct - SeedyROM 19:44:22 07/26/07 Re: can you explain the gain just by using the 3" Dps and - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:56:56 07/26/07 is it just me or was it not so long ago when pretty much - robo (sebring1970) 18:48:11 07/26/07 that was the impression that I got from the forum... - inf 18:55:49 07/26/07 every dogma has its day ;c) (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:29:10 07/26/07 There were a few of us that had faith in the 3"ers. ;) - Scotts94z32 10:41:03 07/27/07 AzHeat? Is that you? :) (n/m) - Guapo 10:49:47 07/27/07 He stole my laptop! That was sort of Azheat-like. - Scotts94z32 11:07:26 07/27/07 lol ... - Guapo 12:08:03 07/27/07 What the hell is that suppose to mean? (n/m) - AZHeat 16:55:38 07/27/07 Yeah, I think a third guy running them was - SeedyROM 11:10:41 07/27/07 Absolutely. We couldn't try on other cars because they were - Scotts94z32 11:22:39 07/27/07 I ran 3 inch downpipes / midpipes on my Sport 600's - The Devils Z 12:05:57 07/27/07 Yep, you're the one. The name change is what threw me - SeedyROM 13:16:53 07/27/07 Just wait till some one proves that FMIC is actually good:P (n/m) - Red Baron Z 19:01:33 07/26/07 Just wait till some one proves that a FMIC is actually good (n/m) - Red Baron Z 19:17:48 07/26/07 There's been actual testing of those ;) (n/m) - SeedyROM 19:43:14 07/26/07 (:o (n/m) - Red Baron Z 19:48:53 07/26/07 Absolutely. 3" existed back then but wasn't efficient - SeedyROM 19:42:51 07/26/07 thank you for that (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:51:38 07/26/07 np! - SeedyROM 20:00:31 07/26/07 That opinion originated from Greg D. Himself. Everyone - AZHeat 21:00:17 07/26/07 Don't forget, 3" never proved *itself* back then - SeedyROM 23:08:49 07/26/07 HI Ryan! - Scotts94z32 10:34:57 07/27/07 Those are custom divorced, NOT available product ;) - SeedyROM 10:59:08 07/27/07 One thing they certainly were not was affordable. - Scotts94z32 11:10:04 07/27/07 No doubt - SeedyROM 11:14:03 07/27/07 lol ... - The Devils Z 12:13:43 07/27/07 No, it didn't. (n/m) - Kenny 23:38:46 07/26/07 I've been saying this for some time now (n/m) - The Devils Z 12:04:38 07/27/07 Three posts in one thread to remind us? - SeedyROM 13:28:43 07/27/07 I took such a "schlacking" on the 3 inch debate ... - The Devils Z 13:48:23 07/27/07 True, I'll give you that - SeedyROM 14:19:10 07/27/07 I think you are correct with your statements on the - The Devils Z 14:51:26 07/27/07 Here's to fast Zs =) - SeedyROM 15:08:16 07/27/07 Thanks Greg - Red Baron Z 18:57:02 07/26/07 Here's my 3" Stock Turbo dyno - SeedyROM 20:19:49 07/26/07 Holy shift-grip, that's a freakin rocket !!!! ha ha ha (n/m) - AZHeat 20:51:54 07/26/07 Damn straight. - SeedyROM 21:11:30 07/26/07 Theres no mention of injectors in your profile. - EricTTZ 21:39:39 07/26/07 Oh heck no. Just had them upgraded as I was saying - SeedyROM 22:50:54 07/26/07 I made 361 RWHP and 401 TQ last year with stock turbos, - phillyz 11:46:48 07/27/07 COMPLETELY different situations... - Scotts94z32 12:59:07 07/27/07 What he said! - SeedyROM 13:36:41 07/27/07 He also has different DP's and TC. (n/m) - AZHeat 14:14:26 07/27/07 You have a different TC and tranny than Seedy. - AZHeat 14:13:12 07/27/07 Another good point - SeedyROM 14:22:44 07/27/07 What would you do without me and Scott? :) (n/m) - AZHeat 15:04:22 07/27/07 impressive .. (n/m) - The Devils Z 14:44:47 07/27/07 Re: 3 inch parts.............. - WhiteBoyFunk 21:01:18 07/26/07 Congrats. Awesome work on the exhaust. It's not - AZHeat 21:04:36 07/26/07 Dead sexy! - thejones (Sacto, CA) 21:48:34 07/26/07 so what would running dump pipes off the wastegate side add? - DarkZide 22:05:11 07/26/07 a headache - aliaZ 22:39:49 07/26/07 2nd. An open dump is insanely loud, and not "that sounds - Scotts94z32 11:24:47 07/27/07 With my external wastegate setup I was going to go - AZHeat 14:37:20 07/27/07 good thing you decided against it - aliaZ 15:42:15 07/27/07 Anyone wanna sell me their old DP's? - zleepertt(MD) 22:10:35 07/26/07 Sold mine to Tu - SeedyROM 23:00:38 07/26/07 And I sold them to Sponge, forgot that 4 bolt-5 bolt stuff. (n/m) - Tu 10:38:41 07/27/07 lol (n/m) - SeedyROM 10:55:45 07/27/07 Greg, is there No need for the flex-pipes in the testpipes - dregos 23:07:24 07/26/07 they take some stress off of the mani's - genic 08:44:11 07/27/07 Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have them on my 2.5" settup. - dregos 11:03:20 07/27/07 hmm time to spend more money :) (n/m) - Piranha 23:22:23 07/26/07 It's always something isn't it? I am getting ready to put - dregos 23:30:55 07/26/07 going to have super splits lying around then? ;) (n/m) - SeanK (StL) 00:17:20 07/27/07 yep :) (n/m) - Piranha 01:51:56 07/27/07 I love mine!! - EvilTwin(Omaha) 01:28:45 07/27/07 Very nice Greg, Seb and co. - eriksu9 08:14:54 07/27/07 just my 2 cents...... - DrDCanaceu 09:34:50 07/27/07 Those are works of art - - TT XTZ 11:00:14 07/27/07 Mine are fantastic!!! Thanks Greg...also, as the imitators - citation 14:09:34 07/27/07 Had mine Swain Coated - citation 14:17:44 07/27/07 where aboots did you get that done? (n/m) - genic 17:59:00 07/27/07 Swain Technology Inc. - citation 18:50:17 07/27/07 Duh!!! (n/m) - AZHeat 14:13:38 07/28/07 well f face....i never looked into it. so piss off (n/m) - genic 21:11:25 07/28/07
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