Subject	I have nothing against Z1. The numbers just don't add up.
Posted by	Kenny on June 10, 2004 at 11:31 PM
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In Reply To	LOL, of course you can't address the basis for my opinion posted by RegalZ on June 10, 2004 at 10:51 PM
Message	Once again, you should stop taking this as an insult. Now, let's take a look. I've made a table to help you understand what I'm saying. Intercooler Outlet Temp Horsepower Torque UAS FMIC 103 431 411 Z1 123 430 412 Stillen 110 427 409 Stock 134 403 375 Z1 Air/Water 125 422 402 Notice the 20 degree difference between the front-mount and the Z1 intercoolers? Why does that translate into only a 1 hp drop and 1 ft/lb tq increase for the Z1 intercoolers? Now compare the Stillen to the Z1. The Stillen ICs are 13 degrees cooler, but make 3 less hp and 3 less ft/lbs of torque. This just doesn't add up. It doesn't matter who makes the intercoolers or who sells them - if Coz Ceh made intercoolers and tested them with these results, I'd ask him the same questions. I included the graphics below for you reference. mkay? Kenny... PETZ Member #5
Follow Ups	Intercooler DYNO Shootout: How they rack up->>>> - Ash's Z (In Progress) 20:50:15 06/07/04 Dyno chart is too small. Can't make anything out well. (n/m) - WhiteOutZ 21:02:56 06/07/04 2nd (n/m) - Junxster (NoVA) 21:04:13 06/07/04 Re: 2nd - Russell@Z1 21:11:45 06/07/04 most everyone uses synthetk (n/m) - fourZero 21:15:45 06/07/04 Me too, Ash is just old school. (n/m) - Russell@Z1 21:19:04 06/07/04 clicked on it (n/m) - ZBlacktt 22:58:01 06/07/04 Stock are worse than I thought at those power levels. - SooperZ95 21:03:53 06/07/04 post without the html and crap...post looks like crap - genic 21:06:55 06/07/04 Ash posted and went home, so it can't be fixed. - Russell@Z1 21:15:44 06/07/04 i am in theme 01 ... i will look at it later (n/m) - genic 21:18:23 06/07/04 Very nice! How much will they go for? (n/m) - Slobo7x 21:07:40 06/07/04 Less than the others. - Russell@Z1 21:18:24 06/07/04 Cool, I'll shoot you an email tomorrow. (n/m) - Slobo7x 21:20:49 06/07/04 Awesome. (n/m) - SooperZ95 21:23:46 06/07/04 Why are you so quick to knock the Greddy's, especially when - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 21:28:16 06/07/04 Re: Why are you so quick to knock the Greddy's, especially when - Russell@Z1 21:39:10 06/07/04 Glad my ARC's are on... - Only1Z 21:55:36 06/07/04 So you can read it - EricTTZ 22:05:32 06/07/04 Thanks (n/m) - Russell@Z1 22:06:58 06/07/04 Re: Intercooler DYNO Shootout: How they rack up->>>> - Russell@Z1 23:12:01 06/07/04 I would like to see higher boost shoot out , oh well (n/m) - AzHeat 00:18:55 06/08/04 Something doesn't add up. The Z1 intercooler - AzHeat 00:26:59 06/08/04 Where is Lorca's torque? - Woody75 (Denver) 07:33:38 06/08/04 Re: Where is Lorca's torque? - RegalZ 11:41:25 06/08/04 was this the Bar Plate Monster UAS FMIC? or the tube/fin? (n/m) - Irocsx2002 08:34:46 06/08/04 Just so we know...was the test done with the Front Bumper on - Kyle(Houston) 09:31:35 06/08/04 The bumper was off of the car we tested them on. There - Ash's Z (In Progress) 10:42:07 06/08/04 Stillen are the most efficient SMICs by far. (n/m) - Kenny 14:30:23 06/08/04 The data does not support your claim.. - Ash's Z (In Progress) 14:51:27 06/08/04 I'm afraid it does. - Kenny 15:04:27 06/08/04 Re: Stillen are the most efficient SMICs by far. - Russell@Z1 14:52:03 06/08/04 I'm not arguing hp numbers. - Kenny 15:11:16 06/08/04 Re: I'm not arguing hp numbers. - Russell@Z1 16:12:34 06/08/04 Re: I'm not arguing hp numbers. - RegalZ 00:27:33 06/09/04 I'm sorry you cannot discuss this in a more mature manner. (n/m) - Kenny 23:11:01 06/09/04 LOL, of course you can't address the basis for my opinion - RegalZ 22:51:12 06/10/04 I have nothing against Z1. The numbers just don't add up. - Kenny 23:31:45 06/10/04 Here's the thing ... - RegalZ 00:03:03 06/11/04 Re: Here's the thing ... - Kenny 00:26:48 06/11/04 Try to stay with me this time ... - RegalZ 21:07:35 06/11/04
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