Subject	SELLING: Free Mint 1993 TT w/64K miles - when you buy upgrades!
Posted by	poorman on December 14, 2005 at 6:39 PM
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	Screen Name: poorman Real Name: Van Tassel Phone: 310 832-1628 Location: Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 USA E-mail: business1broker@netzero.net Research poorman's post history
Message	Thought I had this sold twice now, but buyers keep flaking out. Good news is that of the three people that have seen the car, two immediately offered full price, and third is still “thinking” about it. Anyways, here is the scoop: After 11 years, its time to find a new owner for my Z. It has been adult owned, garage kept, and never abused. It was a fully loaded twin turbo with power leather seats, etched glass and every other option available at the time. It has only 64,000 original miles. Not 64,000 on the third engine, or not 64,000 after the car caught fire and salvage title, or not 64,000 since the theft recovery/major accident. It is a legitimate, all original, never wrecked, never thrashed, 64,000 mile car. It would be a nice Z if that were all there was to it - but there is much more. Starting at about 54,000 miles, it was improved with a legitimate $18,000 in upgrades (no ricer stuff here, these are all legitimate performance enhancing upgrades.) These upgrades kept the car from becoming obsolete, as now days there are SUV's and pickup trucks with much more than 300 horsepower. Doing these upgrades allowed the car to stay at the top of the performance list, running fender to fender with Z06 corvettes and vipers. Thinking of upgrading your existing high mileage Z? Do yourself a favor and sell your car and buy this one. Seriously, what is the logic in taking a beat car and spending $15,000 - $25,000 to restore and build the car when it cost more and won't be as nice as this one when you’re finished. Besides, you'll always wonder what it would be like to drive an unabused, low mileage Z. The following is a list of upgrades and the related parts cost (no labor included). If you’re not handy enough to pull an engine from a car and do all the related labor yourself, add $4,000 to this cost for labor. JWT ECU computer $400 JWT dual POP intake $500 JWT Sport 600 Turbos $2,200 Stillen intercoolers $1,000 Nismo 555cc injectors $1,000 HKS boost controller $300 Split Downpipes $300 ”Test” pipes (Stock cats saved) $150 Labree exhaust w/silencer H pipe $900 APEXi AFC $250 Stillen underdrive pulley $125 Carbon fiber driveshaft $800 Stillen aluminum flywheel $450 Centerforce dual friction clutch $400 Eibach lowering springs $300 Brembo slotted rotors/ss lines/pads (rear) $300 AP 6 piston 14.25” 2 piece rotor (front) $2500 Front strut tower bar $100 Stillen Hicas eliminator $275 Stillen short throw shifter $200 Custom cleared taillights $100 Subframe bushings $40 Stillen larger oil cooler $250 Light weight Enkei RPO-1 17x8.5 (front) and 18x9 (rear) rims with Michelin Pilot Sport 245/40/17 and 275/35/18 tires $2000 Alpine stereo w/infinity and MB Quartz $800 Approx Total: $16,500 With Labor $19,000 Additionally, while the engine was out, the car was put on a weight saving program, the air conditioning compressor/condensor and belt, spare tire/jack, rear window wiper motor and self closing weight were removed. These changes, in conjunction with some of the above weight saving upgrades, have removed about 225 lbs from the weight of the car. In my 11 years of ownership, this vehicle has never had a mechanical breakdown. It’s all original paint, engine, trans, etc. Carfax supports mileage, and the car has never been in any accident. Other than scheduled maintenance and the upgrades, the only other work required was the replacement of one fuel injector (which intermittently caused poor idle), and the power transistor (which was a recall item). Overall condition is excellent I'd say a 8.5-9 out of 10. Exterior has about 4 dime size or smaller dings, and some minor scraches in the clearcoat at the front of the car and on the hood. Interior is in excellent condition, shows only minimal wear. No tears or significant wear in the leather, or other fabrics. Wheels are straight and have no road rash, but have very minor pitting in the chrome in a few areas. Mechanically, it is perfect, there is nothing the car needs or is expected to need other than normal fluid changes. Wear items like brakes and tires appear to have more than 50% life remaining. All accessories (except those removed e.g. AC) work – this car needs nothing! Here is your chance to get $80K Viper-type performance, in a machine that is comfortable, reliable, and practical enough to drive everyday, for a reasonable price. Don’t let someone else beat you to this car and don't waste lots of money trying to turn a junker into a nice Z like this - the Z is too complicated and expensive to restore to make it cost effective. Price: $15,000 with stock wheels and stock front brakes, $16,000 with stock front brakes and lightweight Enkie Chrome rims and Michelin sport tires as shown. $17,500 for above plus Enkei wheels, and AP 6 piston front brakes with 14.25” 2 piece rotors (These alone cost $2,500). Think you want a stock Z? Think about the following top 10 reasons for owning a stock Z. Then realize that my Z has solved all these problems: Ten: I really love the deep rich sound of that Bose Stereo. Well, I mean I like the nice midrange sound of the Bose. Besides, tweeters and subwoofers are overrated. Nine: Four wheel steering is awesome. I love the vague roaming feel of rear wheels that turn without my control. And the extra weight and superb reliability the system adds makes me feel more secure on the road. Oh, and those factory adjustable shocks – boy I turn between sport and touring all the time. I’m pretty sure my skid pad numbers go from 0.83 to 0.83 with just the flick of a switch. Eight: The factory brakes. It makes the car seem faster when stopping takes so long. Besides, think of all the weight I’m saving with those little tiny front rotors. Seven: The factory exhaust sounds so, so, so, agricultural- Reminds me of my strawberry picking days back in Michigan. And I love that it’s so free flowing. And the looks of those little pea shooter outlets – they are so cute! Six: I love the security of knowing that at 3600 lbs my car weighs as much as some SUV’s and pickup trucks. And giving up 400 lbs to a corvette is nothing, even if they do have an extra 200 horsepower. I can make that up ‘cause I’m a better driver and can speed shift faster. Ditto for all the Vipers, SRT Ram and lightning pickups, Sport SUV’s, and all the modified eclipses, civics, mustangs or other cars that would otherwise smoke a stock Z. Five: I like the smoothness that comes from having an extra 60 lbs of reciprocating mass on my crankshaft and driveline. It doesn’t hurt gas mileage or performance THAT much, does it? Besides, I love the delay when I press the gas at idle, or while driving. Sports car engines just shouldn’t rev too quickly, its bad for them. Four: Those factory wheels and tires. Low profile tires are overrated. So are wider ones. And the car doesn’t look that dated with wheels that don’t fill the wheel well. Besides, they are lighter and I’m saving on unsprung weight with my .083 of lateral grip. Ooops, you mean there are aftermarket wheels that are lighter? Oh, well disregard that last part Three: I need the extra reliability I get with all the extra weight on the car and those tiny turbos and factory exhaust that is choking out my engine. I mean who ever heard of a factory turbo or injector going bad? And since I don’t ever use all 9.5 lbs of boost, even if the turbo went out, I wouldn’t notice and wouldn’t have to spend the money to fix it right? Two: I know it’s a sports car, but I don’t really need all that much performance. I mean 250 RWHP is almost the same as 420 RWHP isn’t it? Its not that I don’t have the money or the wrenching skills to upgrade, I just prefer to leave it stock. Besides, my local mechanic told me I should just leave it stock. One: I love that when I sell it I can sell it easier, since everyone knows stock is best. Heck even if the buyer is really dumb and doesn’t know that stock is best, they want to buy stock and then spend tens of thousands upgrading it, only to make it worth less than a stock one when they are done…….
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