I am going to be upgrading to 20g's soon. I bought my greddy turbo kit new and had the 16G's upgraded to 18g's before I installed them. They have approximately 8k miles on them and have no shaft play and don't smoke. The upgrade cost me 1300 alone. I am looking to get 1700 for the pair. I made 585rwhp on 20psi and 753rwhp with 20psi and nitrous. These turbos would do around 650rwhp on boost alone at higher boost levels. If interested or have any questions email me at sleekz@aol.com