I am going to be upgrading to 20g's soon. So, I am seeing if there is any intrest in these. I bought my greddy turbo kit new and had these upgraded to 18's from 16g's before I instaled them. They have approximately 8k miles on them and have no shaft play and didn't smoke any before I removed them. The upgrade cost me 1300 alone. If interested email me at sleekz@aol.com